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A year later, Gap continues to censor Christmas

At Gap, the score is "holiday" 172 and "Christmas" 3

At Gap, Old Navy and Banana Republic, Christmas hardly exists. For these three companies, all owned by Gap, the only items listed as having anything to do with Christmas were a pair of boxer shorts and a child's sleepwear set.

Last year, when Gap also censored Christmas, we contacted the company. The company refused to change their policy of censoring Christmas. This year the company has continued their practice of censoring Christmas from their stores and promotions. The only conclusion one can reach is that Gap will continue to censor Christmas, a Christian holy day.

Last year an Old Navy store manager was asked if the word "Christmas" was used in his store, he answered: "We have a lot of Christmas gifts in our stores, but the word 'Christmas' is not used here. Everything is 'holiday'."

A search of Old Navy's website shows only the two references to Christmas, the boxer shorts and a child's sleepwear set. There were 25 results in a search for "holiday" for the San Francisco based company, including a "Holiday Gift Guide".

A search of Banana Republic found no reference to "Christmas." Everything is "holiday." While Christmas scored a 0, holiday scored 41

At Gap there was a single reference to Christmas--the boxers. Gap offered 56 holiday items. However, Gap did offer video greetings called "Happy Chrismukkah" and "Merry Christmas Gaptidings."

Take Action!

Don't shop at Gap, Old Navy or Banana Republic.

Send your e-mail to Gap letting the company know that there are those who still recognize Christmas even if it doesn't.

After you have sent your e-mail, be sure to follow up with a phone call. Be polite. Ask Gap if they will reconsider their policy of censoring Christmas. The toll-free number is 1-800-427-7895. The company number is 650-952-4400.

Additional contact information:

Glen Murphy, Chairman

Gap, Inc.

Two Folsom Street

San Francisco, CA 94105

Primary Phone: 1-800-GAP-STYLE

Secondary Phone: 650-952-4400

Fax: 415-427-2553

E-Mail: Glen Murphy (mailto:custserv@gap.com), Gap, Inc., Gap, Inc.



 Personal Correspondence

Hi T.R.;

I was doing some research on scents (cover and attracting) for deer hunting and came across your web site. I was impressed by the amount of research you have put into forming your views / opinions. As an engineer, I appreciate the fact that you base your opinions on actual research and observations. Your opinions / teachings appear to be defensible and accurate.

As I read a number of your articles, I noticed a link to your "Christian Witness" site. This interested me even more than your hunting information.

I was extremely impressed and uplifted by what I read. I really appreciate the way that you "tell it like it is", based on what the Bible says. So many people try to be "politically correct" and water down the truth. I particularly find this to be true in people like yourself that rely on the public's perception and like / dislike of you to make your living. Society (i.e. Satan) wants us to believe that there are no absolute Truths. Everything is just someone's opinion and that it is offensive to believe that one of you is right and one is wrong! I was encouraged to see that you don't fall into this trap. Even when challenged by others, you stick to the truth, as revealed to us through God's Word.

I'm a born again, Bible believing, Christian who has spent many years researching Creation, The Trinity and other theological issues. Based on sound research, observations, and personal experience, I also believe that the Bible is God's Absolute Truth. I was encouraged to read these same beliefs from a "public figure".

The issue that I've been wrestling with lately is a lack of compassion and love for my fellow man. I get depressed by the constantly declining morals of our society and the "it's all about ME" attitude. Because of this, I find myself getting somewhat cynical and not loving my fellow man the way I should.

God provided me with your web site and used it to encourage me and give me a "shot of faith" when I needed it. Just wanted to thank you for allowing God to use you to reach others. I don't usually take the time to write these types of "thank you" notes, but I just wanted to let you know that your ministry is appreciated and fruitful.

May God continue to bless you and your family.


Mark Schmieder



Witness; A Christian Hunter's Insights & Outlook

Table of Contents

Go to the article by clicking on the star-link next to the title.

A Hunter Who Survived Suicide; T.R. Michels' Personal Christian Testimony *

Grampa *

Dad *

Is God Real? *

Is the Bible the Inspired Word of God? *

What is Faith? *

Biblical Accuracy *

Biblical Prophecy *

10 Prophecies *

Fulfilled Prophecies *

Historical Accuracy of the Bible *

Scientific Accuracy of the Bible *

What if Christ is a Hoax? *

Is Jesus God? *

The Holy Trinity; Human Logic or Spiritual Faith? *

What is a Christian? *

The Christian Nicene Creed *

Is Satan Real? *

A Born Again, Spirit Filled, Charismatic Christian *

What Do You Have To Do To Be Saved? *

How Can You Be Born Again? *

What Does It Mean To Be Born Again? *

What Happens To You After You Receive The Holy Spirit? *

What is Charismatic? *

A Child Of God *

Are You Predestined to go to Heaven? *

Non-Biblical Anti-Hunting *

Christian Witness *

Keep Your Spirit Up *

Be A Vocal Christian *

He Came to Divide Us *

Another Daughter *

Return of A Prodigal Son *

The Moment *

Does Hunting Create Problems in Your Life? *

Is the United States becoming a Godless nation? *

Why? *

Christian Outdoorsman's Organizations *


A Hunter Who Survived Suicide; T.R. Michels' Personal Christian Testimony

I was born to unwed parents, a fourteen-year-old girl, and an eighteen-year-old boy. I was then adopted by Dr. Roger Michels and his wife Pat, and grew up in Willmar, Minnesota, where I attended St. Mary's Catholic Church. After high school I enrolled in St. John's University in Collegeville, Minnesota, with plans of going into wildlife research. But, I left college to work as a horse trainer and trail guide on a guest in ranch in Loveland, Colorado. After several years I moved to Cheyenne Wyoming, where I managed a pet store and sold men's clothing. My life was fairly settled, I had a good job, dated occasionally, and on the outside I appeared happy. But, I felt alone, and I was depressed.

While I was in Cheyenne my parents had become "Born Again" Christians. Learning of my depression they flew to Cheyenne and shared their newfound knowledge of Christ with me. Shortly after they left I found myself in a Catholic church for the first time in years, and I knew I had found what I was looking for, a relationship with God. I began to attend church regularly, and a few months later I was invited to a "Charismatic" prayer meeting by one of the nuns from the church. Within weeks I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior, received "the Baptism of the Holy Spirit" and became a "Born Again" Christian.

For the next several years I was on fire for the Lord, and became the leader of the prayer group in Cheyenne. When I moved back to Willmar I became the leader of a prayer group at the local Junior College. In 1997, I moved to Minneapolis, Minnesota to manage a pet store. I was also trying to start a new business as a pet wholesaler, and working as a musician. Then my girlfriend broke off our relationship. I became depressed and attempted suicide by placing the barrel of a 12 gauge shotgun under my chin and pulling the trigger.

I don't remember much about the incident, except putting my hands to my face, feeling that a third of it was gone, and realizing that I couldn't see or speak. I reached for the phone and dialed the operator, but because I couldn't speak, I couldn't tell her what was wrong or where I was. I thank God that she realized something was very wrong. Because I couldn't speak she tried to trace the phone call. When she couldn't trace the call she tried to find out where I was by asking questions and having me tap on the phone receiver; once for "yes" and twice for "no."

Meanwhile, my sister Debbie had been trying to reach me on the phone, but she kept getting a busy signal. Because she was worried she called the operator and asked them to cut in on the phone line. The operator told her she couldn't cut in because it was an emergency situation, and they were trying to trace the call. Debbie explained who she was, and promptly gave the operator my address.

The next thing I remember was the sound of the ambulance coming down the street and the operator telling me that help was on the way. When the paramedic got to the house, he picked up the phone and I remember him telling her, "We're here. It's bad, I don't think he's going to make it." When I heard those words I gave up, and thought to myself, "Well God, here I come. I haven't been real good, but I haven't done anything real bad either. I hope I make it to heaven."

I don't remember the ride to the hospital in the ambulance, or the paramedics trying to get me to lay down on the stretcher, so they could put a tracheotomy tube into my throat to help me breathe, because I was drowning in my own blood. I don't even remember the emergency room doctor asking me if I wanted them to help me. I was in such bad shape that the doctors didn't know if I would live.

Two months later, as I stood in front of the mirror in my hospital room, I saw my face for the first time after shooting myself. What I saw was a swollen, mutilated, grotesque face, with a plastic brace screwed onto the outside of my shattered jaw to hold it together. At first I felt like I was in a bad dream, and that everything would be all right when I woke up. When I realized that what I saw was real, I tried to jump out the window of my hospital room. Thank God it was locked.

In the following months I had several surgeries to repair the damage I had done to myself. Some of the surgeries were so difficult that I was given the Last Rites. At one point I had seven major surgeries in thirty-five days, one of those surgeries lasted 14 hours. When I woke from the last of those surgeries I had new incisions on my face, both of my legs, my chest, my left side, my left arm, and my left wrist.

While I was in the hospital my parents had flown back from Guam, where they lived. They, along with my sisters, prayed that I would live. They witnessed to me about God's mercy, and told me that they were sure that God had a plan for me. In spite of several failed surgeries, I somehow kept my faith in God.

Over the next ten years I had major surgery every six months. Muscle was taken from my upper arm, my side and my chest to repair my face and the roof of my mouth, which was no longer there; blood vessels were taken from both my feet, and the top of my head to provide blood for the muscle transplants. Bone was taken from both my hips, the left side of my pelvis, and a rib from my right side to repair my upper and lower jaw; skin was taken from my upper thighs six different times to transplant to my mouth and sinuses. I barely recovered from one surgery before I went in for another one. After I had my twenty-first surgery I decided not to have any more. Even though the doctors told me they could do more, I had had enough.

While I was still having reconstructive surgery I met my wife Diane, and we were married in 1984. I adopted her daughter Melissa two years later. We then had a son, Dallas, and another daughter, Tawnya. In an effort to regain some semblance of a normal life I attended the Wilderness Guides and Packers School in Jackson, Wyoming, where I received my diploma as a certified hunting guide. Two years later I formed T.R. Michels Guide Service; booking hunts for several guides and outfitters in North America. I also guided for elk in New Mexico, and for goose, deer and turkey in Minnesota. For the next few years I was busy throughout the year booking hunts, guiding, and giving seminars at sport shows. Then, because I was away from home for much of the year, Diane left me.

During the first years of our marriage our family had attended church regularly. But, we had not been attending prayer meetings. After Diane left I felt the need for Christian fellowship, support and prayer, and I began attending a Catholic Charismatic prayer meeting in North Saint Paul, Minnesota. Within six months Diane returned home and our family began to regularly attend prayer meetings, with a renewed faith in the Lord.

One night while we were praying in tongues at the prayer meeting my son Dallas whispered to me that he wanted to pray in "tongues" too. But, he said he didn't know how. I told him, "Maybe you don't know how, but the Holy Spirit does, just let him do it for you." While I was talking to him I noticed that my youngest daughter Tawnya was praying in tongues, which she had never done before. And then Dallas began praying in tongues. I know now that they had both accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and that on that night they received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit; Dallas was eight years old, Tawnya was six. My oldest daughter Melissa gave her life to Christ later that same year; she was 13.

By the grace of God I began writing my column Maximum Effort Hunting System, which has been published in several Midwest publications, in 1987. I began giving seminars at sport shows throughout the Midwest in 1988. I designed Konifer camouflage for the Cabela's catalog in 1989, and Field "Stalker" for the Herter's catalog in 1992. I wrote my first two books Goose Addict's Manual and Elk Addict's Manual during that time. In 1997 I began writing for the National Rifle Association's American Hunter. I currently write for the National Wild Turkey Federation's Turkey Call, Petersen's Bowhunting, Buckmasters, Bow and Arrow Hunting, North American Whitetail, Fur-Fish-Game, Midwest Outdoors, Big River Outdoors, Midwest Bowhunter and several other regional and state publications. I write the "Deer Management and Nutrition & Deer Research" column in Rublines magazine, and the "Deer Biology and Behavior" column in Whitetail Fanatic magazine. I have also written articles for the Christian Bowhunters of America Speaking Out magazine, and the Christian Deer Hunters Association newsletter. I also author the "T.R.'s Tips" forum at www.TRMichels.com and on several other websites.

In 1999, Melissa became engaged to Greg Boehmer, who she had been dating since she was 13 years old. Later that year a local evangelist, Lowell Lundstrom, invited me to speak at the 2000 Wild Game Dinner at Celebration Church in Lakeville, Minnesota. Greg accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior at the dinner that night. Then, on Easter Saturday of 2001, five weeks before he married Melissa, Greg was baptized, confirmed and celebrated his first communion in the Catholic Church. I am proud to say that I now have another "Born Again" son.

I thank Jesus for dying on the cross for me, for coming into my life, for saving my life, for returning my speech and sight, for saving my marriage, and especially for saving my soul. Jesus is my Lord, and my Savior.




I can still see him sitting in his chair, reading his newspaper.

I can still smell his pipe as he knocked out the last of the ashes.


I remember the first time he let me pack his pipe,

showing me how to push the moist brown tobacco

down into the bowl of the pipe with my finger.


I can still hear the match flair and his puffing as he lit the pipe.

I can still hear him talking through clenched teeth,

and see the puffs of smoke as he got the pipe going.


I remember going to the garden with him,

to pick vegetables and dig potatoes.


I remember going down to the cellar and looking with awe

at the jars of canned tomatoes and sauerkraut,

as the light shone on them, all lined up on the shelves.


I remember how he picked up my children,

put them in his lap, and let them listen to his pocket watch,

just like he'd done with me.


I remember how he made dog and cat sounds,

and made my children laugh,

just like he'd done with me.


I remember him feeding the birds,

and showing me how to hold a sunflower seed in my teeth,

so a chickadee could land on my lip,

and pluck the seed from my mouth.


I remember him doing a jig with his tap shoes,

to the tune of "It Ain't A Gonna Rain No More."

I remember him sitting under the maple tree,

and playing cribbage with Hank.


I remember his voice booming out on Sundays,

as he read the scriptures,

in the way that only he could do.

How could I ever forget.


Memorial, Leo Michels, by T.R. Michels, Grandson



I remember the way he put my children on his lap and made bird calls,

just like Grampa did for me.


I remember the way he tossed my children in the air, then held them close to his face,

just like Grampa did to me.


I remember when he let me help him put the cords on the decoys before duck season,

just like I did with my children.


I remember him teaching me gun safety, and how to shoot,

just like I taught my children.


I remember him carrying me on his shoulders through the cattails,

just like I did with my children.


I remember him giving me my first duck call, and teaching me how to use it,

just like I did with my children.


I remember going to church with the family every Sunday,

just like I did with my children.


I remember him giving me a dollar to put in the collection,

just like I did with my children.


I remember all of these things,

passed on from my grandfather, to my father,

to me, to my children,

and hopefully to their children.


But there are other more important things passed on to me,

things that can make us all better persons.


Having a deep love of God,

and believing that He is a good

and powerful force in our lives.


Having faith that prayer can,

and does help,

in every part of our lives.


Believing that sharing with others less fortunate than we are,

is part of believing in God.


Believing that love is given to others,

no matter their color, race or creed.


Believing that Christ died for our sins,

and is our God, our Lord, and our Savior.


Believing that the Holy Spirit dwells in our hearts,

and helps us to be better followers of Christ.


Believing that miracles happen.

Believing that we are saved by our faith alone.

Believing in Heaven.


Without those beliefs I couldn't make it through life day by day,

or be the husband and father that I am.


Thanks Dad,

I love you.

Memorial, Dr. Roger Michels, by T.R. Michels, Son.


Is God Real?

Sooner or later we must all ask ourselves, "What if there is no God? Would that make living the lifestyle of a Christian any less important? Would that make the philosophy of the Bible any less meaningful? Even if there is no God, and Christ was not the Son of God, can't we still use the Bible as a manual on how to live our lives? Shouldn't we still strive to achieve the lifestyle of what we call Christianity?

Is there a God? The question seems almost rhetorical. From what historians and archaeologists have found it appears that even primitive man knew, or believed, there was a higher existence, something greater than mankind. Many of these primitive cultures offered sacrifice, honored, prayed to, or asked for help from, this higher existence. Earliest man may have believed that he came from "mother earth." The Egyptians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Greeks and Romans of the Middle East and the Mediterranean area believed in several "gods." The peoples of Asia believed in "gods" and "spirits." The native Americans believed in "The Great Spirit." Three of the world's most influential religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) believe in one God and in spirits or angels. Many of the people of these cultures and religions believe their god or gods created man, and believe that their gods could or did affect their lives. That is why they offered sacrifices, honored, prayed to, or asked for help from this higher existence.

Many of these people also believed there was a negative force that fought for control of earth and men's lives against the positive force or forces of the higher existence that created man. These negative forces were referred to as angry gods, evil spirits, devils, or Satan; and they came from Sheol, Hades or Hell. In the Zoroastrian religion of ancient Persia this place was referred to as Ahriman, "the source of evil and lord of darkness." But, what is evil? Many cultures regard anything that affects humans or their environment negatively as "bad" or "evil". If a person harms another person physically or emotionally, or affects their life in a negative way, it is considered "wrong." Anything that helps a person, or mankind, is considered "good" or "right." Thus, we have established that most humans believe there is a good and bad, or right and wrong; and that there is a spiritual side to existence, and thus to mankind.

Incidences of wrong or bad behavior, that may not cause physical danger injury, or emotional or spiritual harm or injury, that are not purposeful in nature, can be excused as accidental, and therefore can be forgiven or overlooked. Incidences of wrong or bad behavior, that cause physical danger or injury, or emotional or spiritual harm or injury, that are purposeful in nature, are not excusable, and are considered as wrong. Evil then, could be considered as anything that comes from purposeful wrong or bad behavior that results in physical danger or injury, or emotional or spiritual harm or injury, to another human. I don't think that anyone would argue when I say that causing personal injury, rape and death, of hundreds of people by the Nazi's; and by various ethnic or religious groups against other ethnic or religious groups, is evil.

Much of mankind has learned that coexistence with other humans is less stressful, more peaceful, and in the long run easier if we don't treat each other badly, or wrong, especially if there is nothing evil involved. In fact, we have found that evil creates more evil. We have also found that treating others with kindness, respect, compassion, understanding and love results in a less stressful, more peaceful and easier existence. There seems to be no reason not to be "good" or to treat others "right."

If humans believe in "good," and believe that good may be related to a higher force, and that this higher force created humans, we have to ask, "Is there a God?" Since Christians trace their belief in a god back to Judaism, and the beliefs and history of the first five books of the Bible (the Pentateuch), let us look at the Bible as a historical reference about the belief in God. For the purposes of speaking about Christianity, let us refer to God as "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" which means "I am; the eternal living one," because that is what the God of the Hebrews called himself when he appeared to Moses; "I am."

Although there may be differences of opinion about who actually wrote the Pentateuch, most religious scholars and Christians believe that Moses and other writers received inspiration from Yahweh about behavior, religious rules, and laws. This inspiration, passed on by memory or writings; combined with memories and other writings about the history of the Hebrews, has been passed on to us through the Pentateuch, which is not only the foundation of our faith in Yahweh, but also in the Bible as the word of Yahweh. Since Christians believe that the Bible is the word of Yahweh, it follows that they should also believe what it tells us about the creation of the world. The question that arises then is, "Is the Bible the Word of God, and is it historically correct?"

Is the Bible the Inspired Word of God?

While most Christians accept the fact that the Bible is the inspired "Word of God," they accept it on faith, not necessarily on the reliability of the Bible based on historical, geographical, scientific or linguistic reliability, or on the number of fulfilled prophecies within it. As a Christian, coming from a strong Catholic family, I've always believed the Bible was the Word of God. You can see how I was raised by reading the eulogies I wrote for my Grandfather's and my Father's memorial services. I also attended a Catholic school for the first 8 years of my schooling. During that time I received extensive teaching in Christian dogma and doctrine, with the result that I never questioned the belief that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. But, during my forties I began an extensive study of the Bible, to determine if it was sound from a scientific aspect; and I found that it was remarkable reliable.

However, anyone who was not raised as a Christian, any Christian who has not had the Christian instruction and training that I and many other Christians have had about Christianity, and anyone who has not read and researched the Bible, may not accept the fact that the Bible is the Word of God based on faith alone. They need some kind of proof, where others of us need only our "faith."

What is Faith?

Faith is defined as "accepting as reliable". For most Christians faith means to accept as reliable something which cannot be completely proven. It means to accept the Bible, and believe that something we don't completely understand, something the human mind cannot comprehend as "the truth", is in fact Gods' truth. And that "truth" is that God exists, that there is only one God, that the name of God is Yahweh (YHWH), that God created everything in the universe from nothing, that God is made up of three distinct beings, God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit, in the one Godhead we refer to as the Holy Trinity.

Faith to a Christian is "trust in God." In other words, without faith there may be no belief that the Bible is the Word of God. Thus "Christian" faith is essential to believing that the Bible is the inspired Word of God, and believing that the mystery of God is that Jesus is God, one in being with God the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the one Godhead of the Holy Trinity. This "Christian spiritual" faith is essential to the beliefs, teachings, tenets, doctrines and dogmas of Christianity; which in turn leads to a proper understanding of Christianity, and what it means to be a Christian.

Throughout his ministry the "faith" that Jesus asks us for is the act of trust and self abandonment by which people no longer rely on their own strength, beliefs and policies, but commit themselves to the guiding word of him (Jesus) in whom they believe. (Mk. 1:15; Mt. 21:25, 32; Lk. 1:20, 45)

It is this concept of "faith" that is most perplexing to humans, especially when it comes to God. God is something that thinking, searching, contemplating humans shall always wonder about, ponder, and never have a complete understanding of, until we join God in Heaven.

But, we must also realize that it is "faith" that is required of humans, in order to be saved. For we are saved by faith alone. The great thing about God is that he foresaw the problem we would have with believing in something we could not prove, namely God, and He gave us a way to believe in it, without proof. It is the spiritual Gift of Faith, given to us by the Holy Spirit, often when we finally realize there are questions without answers; when we realize there must be more "out there" than just the physical world; when we realize there must be more to our existence than just living, struggling, fighting to survive and then dying; when we finally accept Jesus as God, part of the Holy Trinity; accept the belief/fact that Jesus died on the cross for our sins; accept that God raised Him from the dead; and believe that we likewise will be raised from the dead, to live in heaven with God forever.

This often occurs to us during our "reborn " or "born again" experience, known as the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. And Jesus clearly told us that unless we are reborn of water and the Spirit we cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven. This "born again" experience, and our receiving of the Gift of Faith, appear to go hand in hand. For how can we believe in God without the Spiritual Gift of Faith, and how can we receive the Gift of Faith without believing in God?

That we are led to this point in our lives, often by our own questions, thoughts, beliefs and conclusions; and that we come to our acceptance of Jesus as God, Lord and Savior, at the same time we receive the Gift of Faith, which in turn allows, or leads us, to our questions, thoughts beliefs and conclusions; is one of the mysteries of Christianity, and one of the proofs of the existence of something else out there, namely God/Yahweh.

So, if you are a Christian, your faith should tell you that somewhere from creation to evolution and beyond, is the truth of how the earth came to be. Your faith should also tell you that God always was, and always will be, and that understanding this will remain a mystery, until you are with God. Your faith and the Bible should also tell you that it isn't creation and evolution that is important, or believing that every word of the Bible is exactly as it seems. What matters is the essence, the meaning of the Bible, having faith and believing that Jesus is God, Lord and Savior. Your faith should also tell you it is important to live your life by the Bible; do what you can in life, for God, others and the world, with what you have been given to work with; and always strive for more faith, more understanding, more love and more to work with.

As stated above, many Christians believe we are save by faith alone. But some Christians feel that you must also do good works in order to be saved. I believe Hope and Charity are an outcome (a natural occurrence / way of life) if you have Christian Faith as outlined in the Bible. Faith is not "Christian" Faith without Hope in the truth of our Christian "beliefs"; and Faith (and our beliefs) lead us to Charity (doing good works) without thinking about doing them for the sake of salvation; without thinking about it beforehand (conscious decision to do a good work). We are, or should be, Charitable because it is part of our Christian nature. Thus, we are saved by faith alone, because salvation begins with, and is dependent on, Faith in Yahewh Sabaoth and his divine Word (Jesus) as is stated in the Christian Bible.

Biblical Accuracy

Many scientists and scholars have tried to show that the history of the Bible is wrong, about many things. If it is, they could question the validity of the inspiration of Yahweh in its writing, which would bring into the question the belief of Christians in a God/Creator. However, whenever the validity of the historical aspects of the Bible have been questioned, it has been shown to be remarkably correct, especially considering how long ago it was written, and how the information in it was passed on.

In my own research of Genesis I found that none of the patriarchs listed in the Bible lived through the flood, except Noah, his three sons, and their wives. With the unbelievably long lives of the patriarchs, and the fact that none of the actual dates of their births or deaths were recorded, nor the date of the flood recorded, it is no less than amazing that whoever wrote the text of the Bible made sure that none of the patriarchs alive at the time of the flood (other than Noah's family) lived through it. I found it almost incomprehensible that the one person listed in the Pentateuch (Methuselah, who was the longest lived) did not survive the flood, but in fact, died the very year of the flood. With the primitive way that the lives of men and the events in their lives were recorded, it is inconceivable that the person who wrote it got it right, unless Yahweh inspired it.

As I continued to research Genesis I found that scientists and current literature refer to the names of the patriarchs as several of today's ethnic groups. Most encyclopedias list Shem, Ham and Japheth as the sons of Noah, and tell us which ethnic groups they are associated with. Shem's descendants are referred to as Semites, who inhabited the Middle East and northern Africa. Ham's sons are referred to as the Hamitic people of Africa. Japheth's sons are referred to as the peoples of Europe, Asia Minor and Asia.

The fact that several Semitic groups (Akkadians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans) were closely related to the Hebrews; and the nearness of the Semitic and Hamitic groups geographic locations, made it easy for the writers of Genesis to know of and write about them. But, how did the writers of Genesis know about the sons of Japheth in their far away locations; such as Ashkenaz (the Scandinavians of Norway, Sweden and Denmark; the Goths of Germany; the Franks of France; the Angles, Picts and Saxons of England); such as Gomer (Cimmerians; the Gauls of Galatia and France, the Gaels and Celts of Scotland and Ireland); and Magog (the Mongols) of Russia and China?

As I did further research I found that the related names/ethnic groups in Genesis (that now live in widely separated geographic locations) use closely related languages. How is it that the Hebrews of 3000 years ago knew about these widely scattered people, and grouped them according to language? The study of linguistic geographics (related languages in different geographic locations) did not even begin until the 19th century. The only explanation of how the Hebrews knew of these people and grouped them together correctly, is because they were listed in the Pentateuch, which was divinely inspired by a higher existence, Yahweh.

The Pentateuch has been shown to be historically correct by several people. Scientists have been able to show (through documents other than the Pentateuch, and the carbon dating of artifacts) that the Hebrews were in Egypt; when they left Egypt; when they entered Palestine; and when they were conquered by the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks and Romans. These scientists often go so far as to use the dates of the Pentateuch to backup their findings. This shows that the Pentateuch is often historically correct, and that many of the persons, places and dates in it are real.

The question that still remains about a God/creator is, "Is Yahweh real?" The answer to that question lies in the writing of the Pentateuch itself. The fact that it is consistent, and historically correct, when it often seems so implausible, can lead us to only one conclusion; it was inspired by a higher intelligence, Yahweh.

Biblical Prophecy

No other religious book that I know of contains verifiable prophecy. The Bible is filled with it. The prophecies are specific and historical, not vague and subject to interpretation. About a quarter of the Bible was prophecy when it was originally written, and approximately half of those prophecies have already been fulfilled literally. Although skeptics have argued that these prophecies must have been added to the text after the events came to pass, that contention does not hold up under close scrutiny.

Forty-eight prophecies about Jesus have been fulfilled; at least 33 specific Old Testament prophesies in the 24 hours before he died. The probability of that happening by chance is about 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000. Many of those prophecies can be found in the book of Isaiah. The Dead Sea Scrolls include a complete copy of Isaiah which was probably copied before Jesus' crucifixion. Those prophecies are still contained in Jewish scriptures, despite the fact that Jews do not acknowledge that Christ was the promised Messiah. As an example, read Isaiah 53.

10 Prophecies

Below are the summaries of 10 fulfilled Bible prophecies. The web sites, at and explain the fulfillment of 100 Bible prophecies, including the 10 below.

1. Genesis 28:10-15 - Jacob had a vision 4000 years ago that the Jews would be scattered worldwide, that they would have a worldwide impact, and that they would be brought back to Israel. All three happened - each to an extreme unmatched by any other people in history.

2. Jeremiah 30:11 - Jeremiah said 2600 years ago that God will save the Jews and destroy their enemies. Gone are the Assyrian, Babylonian, Roman and Nazi empires. Each tried to destroy Israel and the Jews. And each have been destroyed. But not the Jews and not Israel.

3. Genesis 12:2-3 - Genesis said the Jews would have a worldwide impact. And indeed their contributions in the sciences, politics, arts and economics are vastly disproportionate to their numbers. The Jews introduced the one-true God concept, now embraced by 3 billion people.

4. Micah 3:11-12 - The prophet Micah said 2700 years ago that Jerusalem would be destroyed and literally "plowed like a field." When the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in 135 AD, they ran a plow over Jerusalem, they literally plowed Jerusalem.

5. Deuteronomy 28:64 - Deuteronomy said 3400 years ago that Jews would be scattered worldwide. History has but one example of a people being forcibly scattered as far west as California, as far east as Japan, as far north as Scandinavia, as far south as South Africa: The Jews.

6. Leviticus 26:31-32 - Leviticus said 3400 years ago that the Jewish homeland would be inhabited by enemies. And what other nation in this world today has so deeply rooted within its boundaries a sworn enemy that has so openly sought to destroy its host?

7. Zechariah 8:13 - Zechariah said 2500 years ago that Jews would be persecuted, but preserved. What other group has endured 19 centuries of exile, persecution and genocide, only to find the strength to re-establish their homeland, as did the Jews in 1948? Zero.

8. Deuteronomy 28:65-67 - Deuteronomy said the Jews would be persecuted in many nations. The Romans killed 1.5 million Jews. The Crusaders killed tens of thousands. England, France, Spain, Italy, Belgium banned Jews from living there. The Nazi's murdered 6 million.

9. Jeremiah 16:14-15 - Jeremiah said the second Israel would be more impressive than the first. The first Israel arose 3400 years ago after Jews had been enslaved in Egypt for 4 centuries. The second was born in 1948 after Jews had been scattered worldwide for 19 centuries.

10. Leviticus 26:3, 7-8 - Leviticus said the Jews would be disproportionately powerful. In 1948, Arab nations with a total population of 20 million sought to destroy Israel with its 600,000 Jews. The Jews won that and other wars since then. In 1967, Israel won a war in 6 days.

There have been hundreds of books written on the subject of the evidence of the divine inspiration of the Bible, and this evidence is numerous and varied. Unfortunately many people have not read any of these books. In fact, few have even read the Bible itself. Many people, Christians included, go along with the belief that the Bible is full of mistakes and that it is no longer relevant to our modern world. Nevertheless the Bible writers claimed repeatedly that they were transmitting the very Word of God, infallible and authoritative in the highest degree. This is an amazing thing for any writer to say, and if the forty or so men who wrote the Scriptures were wrong in these claims they must have been lying, insane, or both. But, if the most widely disseminated and influential book in the world, containing some of the most beautiful literature in the world, with such a wonderful moral code, was written by deceiving fanatics, what hope is there for ever finding the meaning and purpose of our lives in this world? If you seriously investigate the Biblical evidence, you will find that the claims of divine inspiration of the writers (stated over 3,000 times, in various ways) are justified.

Fulfilled Prophecies

Hundreds of Bible prophecies have been fulfilled, specifically and meticulously, often long after the prophetic writer had passed away. For example, Daniel the prophet predicted in about 538 BC (Daniel 9:24-27) that Christ would come as Israel's promised Savior and Prince 483 years after the Persian emperor would give the Jews authority to rebuild Jerusalem, which was then in ruins. This was clearly and definitely fulfilled, hundreds of years later.

There are many fulfilled prophecies in the Bible that deal with individual nations and cities and with the course of history in general, many of them in Isaiah. More than 300 prophecies were fulfilled by Christ; at His first coming. Other prophecies deal with the spread of Christianity, as well as various false religions, and many other subjects. There is no other book, ancient or modern, like this. Only the Bible manifests this remarkable prophetic evidence, and it does so on such a tremendous scale as to render completely absurd any explanation other than divine revelation.

Historical Accuracy of the Bible

The historical accuracy of the Scriptures is in a class by itself. It is far superior to the written records of Egypt, Assyria, and other early nations. Archeological confirmations of the Biblical record have been almost innumerable in the last century. Dr. Nelson Glueck, probably the greatest modern authority on Israeli archeology, has said:

"No archeological discovery has ever controverted a Biblical reference. Scores of archeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or in exact detail historical statements in the Bible. And, by the same token, proper evaluation of Biblical descriptions has often led to amazing discoveries."

Scientific Accuracy of the Bible

Another striking evidence of divine inspiration is found in the fact that many of the principles of modern science were recorded as facts of nature in the Bible long before scientist confirmed them experimentally. A sampling of these would include:

Roundness of the earth (Isaiah 40:22)

Almost infinite extent of the sidereal universe (Isaiah 55:9)

Law of conservation of mass and energy (II Peter 3:7)

Hydrologic cycle (Ecclesiastes 1:7)

Vast number of stars (Jeremiah 33:22)

Law of increasing entropy (Psalm 102:25-27)

Paramount importance of blood in life processes (Leviticus 17:11)

Atmospheric circulation (Ecclesiastes 1:6)

Gravitational field (Job 26:7)

Scholars suggest that there are about 1,000 prophecies altogether in the Bible, approximately 800 in the Old Testament and 200 in the New Testament.

What if Christ is a Hoax?

The answer to this question lies in the historical correctness of the Bible, specifically the New Testament. Scientists can prove that the persons and places in the New Testament existed and that the events actually occurred, by what we now accept as reliable scientific proof.

The Jewish historian Josephus, of the first century, called Jesus the "Christ." Josephus'. Antiquities XVIII, iii, 3, states:

About this time appeared Jesus, a wise man (if indeed it is right to call Him man; for He was a worker of astonishing deeds, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with joy), and He drew to Himself many Jews (many also of Greeks. This was the Christ.) And when Pilate, at the denunciation of those that are foremost among us, had condemned Him to the cross, those who had first loved Him did not abandon Him (for He appeared to them alive again on the third day, the holy prophets having foretold this and countless other marvels about Him.) The tribe of Christians named after Him did not cease to this day.

Another source writes:

The Roman historian Tacitus, of the second century, notes that "Christus, the founder of that name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea, in the region of Tiberius..." Lucian, a satirist contemporary of Tacitus notes, "the man who was crucified in Palestine because he introduced the new cult..." Suetonius (A.D. 75-160) considered Christ (Chrestus) as a Roman insurgent who stirred up seditions under the reign of Claudius (A.D. 41-54): "Judaeos, impulsore Chresto, assidue tumultuantes (Claudius) Roma expulit" (Clau., xxv). Lucian sneered at Christ and the Christians, as he scoffed at the pagan gods. He alludes to Christ's death on the Cross, to His miracles, to the mutual love prevailing among the Christians ("Philopseudes", nn. 13, 16; "De Morte Pereg").
There are also alleged allusions to Christ in Numenius (Origen, "Contra Cels", IV, 51), to His parables in Galerius, to the earthquake at the Crucifixion in Phlegon ( Origen, "Contra Cels.", II, 14). Before the end of the second century, the logos alethes of Celsus, as quoted by Origen (Contra Cels., passim), testifies that at that time the facts related in the Gospels were generally accepted as historically true. The historical character of Jesus Christ is also attested by the hostile Jewish literature of the subsequent centuries. His birth is ascribed to an illicit ("Acta Pilati" in Thilo, "Codex apocryph. N.T., I, 526; cf. Justin, "Apol.", I, 35), or even an adulterous, union of His parents (Origen, "Contra Cels.," I, 28, 32). Additionally, the details of Jesus' ministry, and his beliefs, are written in clear detail in the Bible.

Jesus, this seemingly unimportant man, has had a greater impact on the world than any man before or since. He founded one of the most widely spread religions in the world. The calendar of most of the western world is based on the date of his birth. The Bible, which contains the details of his life and his beliefs, is the most widely published book in the world. His message to us, through his own words and actions, and the words and actions of his followers, is that we should not only love our neighbor, but also our enemy, and treat him as you would have him treat you. Jesus believed in this so strongly that he gave up his life for you and me, so that we could live in eternal life with Him.

Because there is not a better, more humble yet noble way to live, than to be good rather than evil, to be humble rather than be proud, to help others rather than to be self serving, we should all choose to live the lifestyle of a Christian, even if there is no God, and even if Christ wasn't real. If you believe that we should live a Christian lifestyle then you need to ask yourself, "What have I done for my fellow man today? Did I visit or comfort the sick? Did I feed, clothe or house the poor? Did I stand up against social injustice? Have I set a good example for all those around me, especially my family and friends? Have I tried to make the world a better place?" Only you can answer those questions.

Because I personally believe that there is a God, and that Christ was real, I need to say, "I love you Father, el Shaddai (God Almighty); for you created me. Thank you Jesus, for being born, and for dying for my sins; for your saving grace; you are my Lord and my Savior. Thank you Holy Spirit, for coming into my life, so that I could know Jesus; and for giving me the ability and the strength to profess my faith and reach out to others; so that they may come to know and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior."

Is Jesus God?

In December of 2003, on my "T.R.'s Tips" internet message board at www.HuntingNet.com, I was made aware of the fact that some Christian denominations don't believe Jesus is God, or don't believe that Jesus is one in being with the Father in the Holy Trinity. As a Christian, who was raised as a Catholic, and who is still a practicing Catholic, this astounded me. I was raised to believe Jesus is God. However, one of the "Christian" posters on the forum said that they believed in the Holy Trinity, but not that Jesus was God, he was just the son of God; he was in effect a human.

Another "Christian" poster said he believed Jesus was God, but that he was not one in being with the father, he was in effect another god, a second god. Two more posters said that while the believed there was man named Jesus, and that he was possibly a god or a spirit, they also said they believed there were other Gods and spirits, and said that they were Druids. Because some of these people had been asking questions about hunting on the forum for several months, I had come to know and care about them.

This topic, and the studies I did on it between December 20 and January 1, 2003, consumed me. I thought about it most of the night, every night. And fortunately I was also able to watch the series on Jesus and the Bible on the History Channel, CNN and A & E during Christmas week of 2003. If you missed those series, hope they run them again, because they were very enlightening. The following are quotes from the forum during December and January of 2003.

In response to those on the forum who did not believe Jesus and God are one and the same I wrote:

I don't expect that even all Christians may agree with this. What I write here are my own thoughts, meant for those Christians who believe Jesus is God, one in being with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the one triune Godhead of the Holy Trinity. If you don't believe that, you don't have to agree with what I say, you also have the option of not reading this. If you don't agree, please try not to start a long debate, you can state your own beliefs, but let's not try to dispute each other's beliefs. We've done that and gotten nowhere. If you have questions feel free to ask.

As a preface to what I want to say let's take a look at the evolution of the thoughts of the Middle East and Western world on the nature of gods and God. Prior to Abraham's journey out of Ur in the Mesopotamian region of Iran/Turkey most of the people in the Middle East believed there was a god father-head named El or Al, and a god mother-head, with their god children called Baals (pronounced bails). Thus these people believed in multiple gods, whom they worshipped, and prayed to. But, after the journey of Abraham, the Semitic group known as the Hebrews began to worship only one god. However, they still believed there were other gods.

When Moses went up Mt Sinai the first time God told Moses his name was "YHWH" (Yahweh), the God of your ancestors Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, ... This is my name for all time, and thus I am to be invoked for all generations to come." (Ex. 3:15) Then, when Moses received the Ten commandments from God, God told him in no uncertain terms that he YHWH was to be their only God, that there were no other gods, they were to worship no other gods, and they were to worship only YHWH. From this time forward the Hebrews, and subsequently the Jews and the Christians, believed there was only one God.

The question is, "Is Jesus God?" The answers can be found in the Bible.

One poster wrote.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." "The word was God...the Word was made flesh". What more can be said. There it is...straight from the inspired Bible! God is God. Jesus Christ is God. The Holy Spirit is God. The Godhead is made up of 3 persons, hence the word "Trinity". Some things simply cannot be understood nor accepted by men until God has opened their eyes to see His truth.

Way back in Genesis 1:26, the Bible declares "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." You see, that was written thousands of years before Jesus was born as the Son of God to a woman in Bethlehem. But notice the usage of the plural words "us" and "our". That is because the triune God was there...God in 3 persons. It was Not 3 Gods.

The first chapter of John's Gospel shows very clearly who Jesus Christ is. Since these things remain a mystery to some, perhaps these verses will shed further light on the matter... 1 Tim. 3:16 (KJV) "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. " That verse is speaking of Jesus Christ. God manifest in flesh! Surely, that verse teaches that Jesus is God.

Phil. 2:6-8 (KJV) "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." Again, a verse about Jesus, the God-man ... in the form of God ... equal with God. As I have shown, the Bible repeatedly says there is one God! How can Jesus be equal with God when there is only one God? The answer is clear to Christians ... Jesus is God!

I then added this:

The Greek word for God used in 1 Tm. 3:16 is theos, which is translated as "the divinity" or "the supreme being." The Greek word for manifest used in 1 Tm. 3:16 is phaneroo, which is interpreted as appear, or shew/show (self), to render apparent, declare. There can be no doubt that what is meant is that God himself appeared in the flesh. If the God of this quote was not Jesus, then who was it?

The poster added this:

Hebrews 1:1-14 (notice what God Himself says to and about Christ) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, [2] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; [3] Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person ... 5] For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? [6] And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. [7] And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. [8] But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever : a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. [9] Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [10] And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: [11] They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; [12] And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

Col. 2:1-23 For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh; [2] That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; [3] In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. [4] And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. [5] For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. [6] As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: [7] Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. [8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

John 14:6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I added this:

This is a prophecy of Isaiah regarding Jesus the Christ. Isaiah 9:6. "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." I don't see any way to interpret that but that the "Mighty God, Everlasting Father" and the "Wonderful Counselor, Prince of Peace," are one and the same. "And I see no way to interpret the "Mighty God" and the "Everlasting Father" as anything but YHWH.

"He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." What is particularly interesting about this verse is the way in which it is written. The two names associated with the Holy Spirit (Wonderful Counselor) and Jesus (Prince of Peace) surround the two names associated with God the Father (Mighty God) and Yahweh (Everlasting Father). The intent of the writer is quite clear; the Father is one and the same as, and one with, Jesus.

Now let's look at the words of the Hebrew passage. The words used to describe Jesus, are the words of God.

"by whom also he (Jesus) made the worlds;" Here God the Father makes it clear that Jesus made the universe. In Genesis 1:1 it states, "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth ..." If there is only one God, then the only way God the Father and Jesus could both make the universe is if they are one and the same God (YHWH).

"the express image of his (God's) person" Here God says Jesus is the express image of God.
"the first begotten into the world" Here God says Jesus is the firstborn of the earth, which means Jesus "was" before Adam and Eve had their first child.

"unto the Son he (God) saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever" Here God calls Jesus "God." So, unless there is more than one God, Jesus is God.

"And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:" Here God says Jesus laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens. If God (YHWH) laid the foundation of earth and heaven, the only way Jesus could have laid the foundation of earth and heaven is if Jesus is God (YHWH).

The poster wrote:

Matthew quoted Isaiah 7:14 when he wrote his gospel. But the Bible goes even further in that verse... it defines the word "Immanuel." It is a very significant definition. Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel." which means, "God with us."

I added:

The Greek word for Immanuel in both Isaiah and Matthew is Immanuw'el, which means "with us is God." The Hebrew word el (as we have seen) means God. Can there be any doubt that Jesus is God?

(There is a lot more discussion on this, and unless you like to read, you may want to skip the rest of this article.)

I then added this:
We are re-hashing the same question as that before the Council of Nicaea 1600+ years ago. And now we can see why they came to the conclusion they came to, Jesus is one in being with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the one Godhead of the Holy Trinity. 1 Tim. 3:16, states, "God was manifested in the flesh, vindicated ion the Spirit, seen by the angles; preached among the gentiles, Believed in throughout the world, taken up into glory." The Greek word for God used here is theos, which is translated as "the divinity" or "the supreme being." The Greek word for manifest is phaneroo, which is interpreted as appear, or shew/show (self), to render apparent, declare. There can be no doubt that what is meant is that God made himself flesh. If the God of this quote was not Jesus, then who was it?

"Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the Lord he is God; there is none else beside him.: (Deuteronomy 4:35)

"Thus saith the Lord, the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? Ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? Yea, there is no God: I know not any." (Isaiah 44:6,8)

"I and my Father are one." (Jesus speaking). (John 10:30)

"For thou shalt worship no other god; for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: (Exodus 34:14)

"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever." (Hebrews 13:8)

"By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth." (Psalms 33:6)

"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." (Hebrews 11:3)

"And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." (Revelation 19:13)

"And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, even in his son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life." (I John 5:20)

"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Phillip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" (John 14:9)

"Come near unto Me, hear this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and His Spirit, hath sent Me." (Isaiah 48:16) Who is speaking. Go back to verse twelve. Hearken unto Me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am He; I am the first, I am also the last." Who is the Alpha and Omega of Revelation? Jesus Christ. So we know who the speaker is. It is Jesus Christ. The Creator, verse thirteen. "Mine hand has also laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand has spread out the heavens, when I call unto them, they stand up together". So we know it is the Lord Jesus Christ speaking.

Other passages to note are Matthew 3, where Jesus is being baptized, the Spirit descending like a dove and the Fathers voice saying, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." All of them there, all of them present at the same time at the same scene. There are people who say, "We don¹t believe in the Trinity, once He was the Father, then He became the Son and now He is the Spirit." How can you explain all three of them at the baptism at the same time? In Romans 8:9 they are all there. In 1 Corinthians 12 they are all there. In 2 Corinthians 13 they are all there. In Ephesians 4 they are all there. So we believe in the Trinity. It's a very important doctrine.

One of the Druids wrote:


Thanks for your response. Like I said I understand how Christians use Satan to get their point of view across. Of course I can only speak for myself, but I would listen to someone explain about Jesus all day long. I wont listen to "well if you don't believe the same as me then your not going to heaven , your going to hell, your a heathen, etc....." I thought there were lots of good points coming out from both sides about Jesus being God/Jesus being the son. Then Bam! the name calling started. And yes, telling someone they are not practicing right is in a way name calling. You yourself have said that if folks don't feel the same as you then they are wrong. I honestly don't believe you mean to sound bad but ... All I'm trying to say is if we are going to debate then lets debate and learn. There is no reason to tell someone they are wrong, most of the folks here already know what the Bible says about satan and not excepting Jesus. What does calling someone a heathen or telling them they won't make it to heaven have to do with learning, all it accomplished was bad vibes and hurt feelings.

The fear factor (of Satan) may have it's use, take Johnny crackhead on the street, the only way to make him wake up is to put the fear of God into him. Take Big Bad Bob the wife beater drunk, he may need a wake up call, so throw the fear of God / Satan into him. Now take a respected person with some smarts and give them credit for having some brain matter, no need for fear, ... education, teaching, but not scare tactics.

I responded with:

A couple of things need to be pointed out here. Stating what I believe to be fact is not "name calling." Saying a particular view on Christianity is "heresy" when "in fact" that is what it is, is only stating the truth. When someone says that if you believe this or that you won't get to Heaven, they are saying it based on their belief of Christianity, because that is what they were taught. Do you really think there are no consequences for not believing "some" things?

Let's look at it like this, you believe that jumping out of a plane will not kill you, because you did it while the plane was on the ground. And you are right, as far as your experience goes. I, on the other hand, believe that jumping out of plane at 20,000 feet can kill you, based on what I've been told, seen or read. You might even believe that jumping out of a plane at 20,000 feet wont' kill you, because you know someone who did it with a parachute who survived. But, no matter how you jump out of a plane at 20,000 feet you can be killed, especially if you do it without a parachute. So, should I say, "There is no consequence to jumping out of a plane at 20,000 feet"? That would be irresponsible on my part.

Lets' look at it another way. I remember taking my kids to the doctor for their shots. They asked if it was going to hurt. Many conventional parents and nurses would say "No." But, because I have always told my kids I will never lie to you, I told them, "I'm not gonna lie to you, it will hurt." My kids trust me because I TRY to never lie to them; and they respect me, and what I say, because of the way I am.

Those examples will show you EXACTLY how I am, and what you can expect of me here. I will tell you the truth as I believe it. To tell you anything less, to tell you just part of what I believe to be the truth, would be telling half-truths, and I will not do it. As a "Jesus is God" believing Christian I believe there are consequences to not being a (JG) Christian. And the Bible tells me one of those consequences is not going to Heaven.

There is no nastiness involved here, especially when it comes to my posts. That is your perception of what "my tough love" is, and you just have to be selective enough to look at what you believe may be positive truth, and not think about what you perceive as negative (truth).

In this instance, if you want to learn about Christianity, consider me and some of the others here the teachers, and read what we have to say; then take it or leave it. I've listened to you, and learned your view on Druids, and I respect you. I just don't accept your views as Biblical truth. However, it may well be Druid truth, which I don't agree with.

I don't know about the rest of you "Jesus is God, one in being with the Father" Christians, but I see that the proof that "Jesus is one in being with the Father" is there, in the Bible. This discussion has only made my beliefs, and my faith, stronger.


I then posted this:

I suggested to another Christian (who has come to his own conclusions that Jesus is the "Son of God" but who is not "God") that he had come to the wrong conclusion, because he has not referred to any writings about Christianity except the Bible. He does not use a Concordance or a Bible dictionary; and he does not regularly discuss his personal beliefs about Jesus with others. I told him that without input from others he might never understand what the meanings of several words in the Bible were, or what the original writers of the Bible intended when they wrote the Bible.

I then posted this:

This is for anyone who reads a Bible that is not annotated and uses it without any reference material. Explain these terms found in the Bible. You can't use anything but a Bible that has no footnotes, if you do, let us know. You can't use any dictionary, encyclopedia, condordance or the internet.

Cush, Nisan, Havilah, Rephaim, Horite, Saraph, Hin, Tammuz, Peleg, Kor, Eber, Seah, Terebinth, Hittite, Ashkenaz, Samaria, Baal, Urartu, Hurrian, Christ, Philistim, Shinar, Togarmah, Sabaoth.

There are a couple of "gimmes" in there.

(As noted in a later post I didn't add Sabaoth until later, as can be seen by my post; original date 1/7/2004 11:22:47 PM. In the posting it reads, "Message edited by trmichels -- 1/9/2004 8:35:11 AM." That is when I added the word Sabaoth to the list of terms to be explained. Pay attention to how God used that word to prove a couple of points several days later.

Lord, help me to be humble enough to follow you, have faith enough to use your gift of wisdom, be wise enough to understand your Word, and be strong enough to profess your truth. If I fail you, convict me. Amen.

I then posted this:

If any of you really want to understand the Bible, I suggest you start at the beginning, use a Concordance and a Bible dictionary, and join a Bible study group. Then pray that God will help you understand the true meaning of the Bible through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. If you don't have input from others, especially knowledgeable teachers or instructors, and the Holy Spirit, you may not understand everything, and you may come to some wrong conclusions.

I then posted:

I'm going to "explain" one of the terms above. Now, I'll be honest and say that adding that term was an afterthought, but I knew it was in the Bible several times. However, I wasn't even sure what it meant, because I had never looked it up. Then two days ago I did look it up. And then this morning, while continuing on with my chapter by chapter reading of the Bible, I ran across the term four times in Is. 14:22-27. It is also found in Rm. 9:29.

I did not stage this sequence of events to make a point. Since this is the second time in a week that my Bible reading has related to the particular relevant subject on this thread, I can only come to one conclusion. God knew about this discussion all along, and He "staged" these coincidences for me, to support my teachings.

Pay attention (----), and everyone else (including you who are reading this), God is trying to get your attention. He's certainly got mine.

The term in those verses, used in some Bibles, is Yahweh Sabaoth. Now, unless you already know what Yahweh and Sabaoth mean, you have to use a Bible Dictionary or a Concordance to find out, which is precisely one of the points I am trying to make here. Point 1. You "must" use outside sources to find out the original meaning of words, or to find out the original intent of the writers, to avoid coming to wrong conclusions. Point 2. This particular term points to the fact that Jesus is God.

Yahweh as we all know refers to God, the one and only "God" of Christians and Jews. But, what does "Yahweh Sabaoth" mean? Sabaoth is the Greek form of the word tsebaoth, which means "armies." Yahweh Sabaoth means Lord God of Hosts, which in the mouth and mind of an ancient Hebrew meant "the leader and commander of the armies of the Hebrew nation."

Let's use a little theological deduction here. This entity is called Yahweh Sabaoth, meaning God and leader, of the army of the Hebrews. This entity is not just the leader of the army of Israel, but also the ONE AND ONLY God of Israel, and of Christianity. And who or what is the leader of the army in Revelations? Jesus!!! Jesus is Yahweh Sabaoth; God-Jesus. Jesus is God!!! What more proof do you need that Jesus is God, and that he and the father are one and the same "One God."

I am in awe as to how this thread has "gone hither and yon" as (-----) put it, and has lead us to so many parts of the Bible, digging into so many meanings. There is no doubt in my mind that this thread, in fact my putting all of the Christian threads on this particular forum, was caused by or inspired by God. How else could some of us be led, or be just coincidentally reading parts of the Bible that were relevant to the particular topic of this thread, at the right point in time, to support our views, based on the original dogma of Christianity. I'm not a mathematician, but I'll bet the chances of these "coincidences" occurring are beyond belief.

Thank you God for leading this discussion through all its twists and turns, and all of its disagreements and debates. Thank you Holy Spirit, for guiding me and others here; so that we could come to the knowledge of your Biblical truth, which is that, "Jesus is God, one in being with God the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the one Godhead of the Holy Trinity."

If any of you (including anyone reading this) still doubt that Jesus is God, you have been blinded. Take off the blinders!!!

If you think that any of us here (on the web site thread) are intelligent, scheming or shrewd enough to stage the outcome of this thread, you overestimate us, and you far underestimate the power of God.

One of the Druids was looking for "proof" that Jesus is God. I responded with:

The whole thing boils down to faith, faith that YHWH exists, and that He created everything from nothing, and faith that what He said/inspired in the Bible is true. Therefore, if I have faith I believe Jesus is God. And I also believe that God is a Jealous God, that He, in the manifestation of Jesus, said that the only way to be saved is to believe Jesus is God, and that Jesus gave his human life for us.

No other religion has had their God give His (human) life for us, so that we could live forever with Him. No other religion has had a God that was killed, then rose from the dead. No other religion has a God that shows such love and mercy.

Now, if YHWH is the only God, he certainly isn't going to allow the practices or beliefs of any false gods or religions to be performed, believed in or adhered to when He comes to earth. So, we who are Christians, have to be careful that we don't let the beliefs of other religions pollute, dilute or corrupt YHWH's religion. And, if the Bible is the word of YHWH, then non-believers, or those polluted, diluted or corrupted by other religions aren't going to have eternal life. I prefer to try to stay true to YHWH's religion.

The Jewish religion believes Jesus existed, the Islamic religion accepts Jesus as a "prophet." I've already shown you that the pagans of Rome (Tacitus and Lucian) wrote about Jesus because He existed. What more do you want?

We've given you enough proof that Jesus existed, enough proof that He is God, that were it any other subject than religion you would more than likely take it as fact. But, some people won't accept it; they are what Christians call "blinded." We've given you more proof than the Theory of Relativity, the Theory of Evolution, than Black Holes; and more proof than the belief that Aristotle, or Pliny, or Sosthenes existed, and most people, including scientists and theologians, believe they did.

Because I've really come to know and respect you, I've come to like you, and I care about you, as I do for others here. It appears (---) has been hurt by my comments here, and no longer participates. I have probably lost a friend over this. But you know what? If I loose a friend over the truth, but may in some small way contribute to them seeing the truth of YHWH, and eventually being saved, it is worth it.

I'm not doing this to win an argument, or because I like to expound, or show off, or try to make myself seem superior. I'm doing it to lead others to YHWH, and that means you my friend.

The Druid responded with:

I agree about faith, you see things one way, I see them somewhat different, no harm in discussing our differences; this is how we learn. I also understand about "faith" in the Bible. What I don't understand is who's interpretation is correct? Do you understand why I believe what I believe and why I don't believe what you believe. (There were several other questions that I didn't copy here.)

I responded with:

As to your non-belief in Jesus, I understand totally. If I wasn't raised Christian I would have an extremely difficult time with it too. Hey, try this. Find the nearest Christian "born again" Charismatic/Pentecostal prayer meeting, go there and ask to be prayed over so that God shows you His truth, whatever that may be. I'm serious, and take (---) you. If you believe in God, what have you got to lose? Nothing, but you could gain the truth.

(As a mere human I wonder where these next thoughts are coming from, but as a "born again who has been given the Gift of Wisdom, I know my thoughts are guided by/inspired by the Holy Spirit. I know I am not intelligent or wise enough to come up with what I am writing (next) on my own. So, pay attention, I fully believe that what I am writing is guided by God Himself.)

There is no way to prove Jesus is God. But, that is because God want's you to trust Him enough to believe, by faith. It isn't proof that saves you, it's faith, and faith alone. Faith in the belief that Jesus is God, and that He died on the cross for your sins (meaning you and ---). It is easy to believe in something that is provable; it takes "faith" to believe in something that might be difficult to understand. But believing in the Triunity of God is the "test" we have to pass; if you will. But, the test is rigged, in your favor (because of a loving God). All you have to do is trust God. Is that too much to ask for eternal life? Hey, it's free.

However, if you rely on your feelings, your beliefs, and the need for proof that God exists; instead of trusting God that YHWH is (exists), that YHWH is the only God, that Jesus is God, that Jesus died on the cross for your sins, so that you can have eternal life, then your feelings and your beliefs, your search for "proof," will get in the way of "faith in God." You can't have faith if you rely on proof; it's a contradiction. Christian faith by definition is "belief in God; knowing that God is real, even though we can't see Him" (as in: even though we can't prove his existence). The Bible says that God is strongest when we are weakest.

If you want God to actively come into your life, stop relying on what you see, feel and think, because as long as you rely on your senses, your personal beliefs, your thoughts and conclusions, and ask for proof of YHWH"s existence, you will never be able to experience "Christian faith." You have to stop what you are doing, and let God, through the power of the Holy Spirit, come into your life. Until you do that, you will never be complete. Stop trying to be in control, stop trying to be self sufficient. That is not what God wants. He wants you to turn every aspect of your life over to Him. If you believe there is a God, then let Him guide you, let Him spiritually enter your soul or spirit. Then, and only then, can you become one with God, in the body of the Savior. (1 Cor. 12:17)

(From here on these are my own thoughts.)

My faith, and my posts in response to your questions, are as much proof as I can give you that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God. How else do you explain my train of thought? I assure you I don't sit and contemplate this beforehand, I write as it comes into my head, given to me by the Holy Spirit. I am amazed at what I write. Although I'd like to say I am as wise/intelligent as I appear here in these matters of God, I know I am not, and I cannot take credit for it. When I write of these matters, I write through the power of God alone, but in my own crude ways. I pray that they are good enough to get God's thoughts across to those who read them.

Somewhere you mentioned polluted, I did not mean that you were polluted, (you seem to have kept to your beliefs). I just meant that each Christian, and the Christian Faith itself, if it is the one true Faith in YHWH, must not allow ourselves/itself to be polluted, corrupted or diluted (watered down) by the beliefs of others, or of other religions. We are warned by the Christian religion that it is wrong to do so, because, as the Bible predicts in Revelations Satan will use the corruption of Christian belief to lead humans away from God, with the result that many souls may not being saved, or they may not be granted eternal life with God in Heaven. We have seen this corruption, this straying from Christian dogma and doctrine here. It cannot be good, or what God wants.

I think of this discussion as a learning tool. I have been forced to look deep into the Bible to justify my beliefs, with the result that they have been vastly strengthened. I have come to trust myself as a growing teacher for Christianity, I have learned to trust the Gift of Wisdom given to me by God, and I realize that this has been God's preparation for what He wants me to do next, whatever that may be. You see, this is me "trusting" that this was guided by God, this is me giving myself over to God, and me having "faith" (another Gift of the Holy Spirit) in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Thank you YHWH Sabaoth. Jesus is Lord. Amen.

By the way, 1 Cor. 12:3 states, "no one can say 'Jesus is Lord' except by the Holy Spirit." If this is true, then I must have given myself to God. (I just now looked this up) Using Anakrina's Bible gift to me I see that the footnote on this verse says. "The validity of any speaking exercise is determined by the truthfullness of it. If the speaker affirms the lordship of Jesus, it is the truth from the Holy Spirit. What a person believes and says about Jesus is the test of whether he speaks from the Holy Spirit. He always leads people to Christ's lordship."

I'll let all of you here judge me. And I'll let God pass judgement on me.

The Druid had many more questions, one of which was how could Jesus die if he was God. I responded with:

Jesus' body is dead forever, his soul and spirit aren't. When He comes back it will be as God. Read 1 Cor. 15:42. "It is the same too with the resurrection of the dead: 43 what is sown is perishable, but what is raised is imperishable; what is sown is contemptible but what is raised is glorious; what is sown is weak, but what is raised is powerful; 44 what is sown is a natural body, and what is raised is a spiritual body." Jesus will come back as an imperishable spiritual body.

I honestly don't think you have come to the end of your path, yet. You are here, asking questions, because deep within you is a yearning for more. I believe you are here because God want's you here, to show you His truth. He is trying to get your attention. Why not give the Bible a try (reading it I mean).

Why not say right now, "God help me to understand your truth, grant me the faith to completely trust in you. I give my whole life, my body, my soul and my spirit to you. Amen."

I just prayed it for you, I hope you will pray it with me. I also hope all of the other Christians will pray that prayer for anyone here who needs it.

(God Inspired thoughts)

As to would I believe in Jesus if there were no Bible? It is a fair question, God foresaw that many humans wouldn't believe in Jesus without the Bible. So, 4000 years before Jesus came to earth, God (in the being of the Holy Spirit) began to inspire men with his thoughts, and He told them who, when and what to look for. And those prophecies did come true. Then when Jesus was here, he continued to pronounce His (God's) thoughts, so they could be added to God's previous thoughts, and be compiled into a library called the Bible, so we would know about God and Jesus, so we could have faith that Jesus is God.

Now I'm going to introduce a possibly new theological concept to you. It is called predestination. Rom. 8:28. "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his son, that he might be the first born among many brothers. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called he also justified; those he justified he also glorified."

Some of us were pre-destined (destined before we were born) to be called to God. Some of us just believe without prodding. Some of us are also chosen, as the Israelites were chosen to be the race from which Jesus came. I think some of the chosen are "hardheads" like the Israelites. God gives us signs and warnings, and chance after chance, but we want to do it our way. (Read the story of the Hebrews in the Old Testament, and see what I mean.) Eventually, because he wants us and loves us so much, he gets our attention, sometimes through some deep personal struggle, conflict, pain or loss in our lives. And we may have to go through this several times. But, eventually we realize He wants us. And we (finally) willingly come to Him.

Those of you who don't believe Jesus is God need to take the blinders off. If you are here, reading this, YHWH is giving you signs. Maybe you should pay attention to the signs.

(personal thoughts)

You miss my point about "parts of my posts." Some of what I write are thoughts from God, specifically parts of this post and the last one; that are meant for you. But, also for anyone else who needs to hear what God is saying. I wasn't talking about my faith, or flaunting my faith. I meant that God "is" talking specifically to you. All you have to do is listen, and have faith in God, and understand that He wants you to believe that Jesus is Lord.

You say you aren't trying to change my beliefs. Unlike you I am trying to change your beliefs, and so is God. If you haven't prayed that prayer yet, why not do it. What have you got to lose?

I then posted this:

I was contemplating this about an hour ago (1:30 AM). The gift of faith is what is given to a person who may or may not have had someone lay hands on them and been prayed for, when they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. The reason I say that is because they immediately believe Jesus is God, Lord and Savior, without question. The only way they can do that, if they did not believe it before, is through the gift of "faith." It is faith, given to them from God through the Holy Spirit, that allows them to believe.
Obviously some people grow into faith, or are given faith without being prayed for or having hands laid on them. But, it is still given to them through the "grace" (free gift) of God. This same gift of faith leads them to accept Jesus as God, Lord and Savior; and believe the Bible is the inspired word of God.

So, faith is something God does to, in, or for us, if you will. God is the acting agent. He gives us faith through grace, primarily for ourselves, to believe YHWH is the one and only God, made up of three persons Father, Son and Holy Spirit; and to believe the Bible is the inspired word of God.

I then posted this on Feb 13, 2004:

If all the other references showing Jesus is God weren't enough for those who don't believe Jesus is God try this. Is. 45:,21 -22 "...There is no other god except me, no saving God, no Savior except me. Turn to me and you will be saved, all you ends of the earth, for I am God, and there is no other. By my own self I swear it;" God himself says there is "no Savior except me." The only way Jesus could be Lord and "Savior" would be because He is God.

In the KJV Bible Phillipians 2:67 states this about Jesus, "Who, being in the in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, But made himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men." These verses clearly states that Jesus was in the form of God and considered himself equal with God, and that he made himself like a slave and came in the likeness of a man. The only way Jesus could "make" himself look like a human was if he was God. In fact, Jesus considered himself equal with God. If there is only one God, then Jesus must be that God.

If you profess that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, but believe that Jesus is not God, you do not completely believe in the divine inspired Word of God.

The Holy Trinity; Human Logic or Spiritual Faith?

One mark of a mature true Christian is "faith". Faith is not just saying. "I believe in God". True Christian faith is believing in monotheism (that there is only one God, and that his name is Yahweh Sabaoth), and believing that he has three distinct yet inseparably intermingled manifestations, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

Faith, and faith alone will allow you to accept that truth. As long as any of us try to understand and live Christianity on human terms, on human logic, we will never have the true Spiritual Gift of Faith. We, as humans, need to allow our human selves, our "essence" our understanding, our mind, our spirit to die; and be reborn of the Holy Spirit, before we can come into the fullness of faith, understanding and acceptance of Jesus as one the three manifestations of the one Godhead of the Holy Trinity.

One of the mistakes some people have made with their use of logic seems to be a false conclusion that Yahweh is limited in his ability to be, and appear, in as many persons, and places, as he desires. Yahweh is not limited in his abilities as we are; he can be and do anything he wants. God is not finite, he is infinite. For some people to use this as an argument defies all understandings of "a god", and thus Yahweh. If their understanding of Yahweh is synonymous with / part of their logic, then their logic is flawed. Thus their conclusions are flawed. They are not using faith.

As long as anyone insists on relying on logic and human reasoning, they will never achieve the fullness of the Spiritual Gift of faith.

This use of human understanding, reasoning and logic (when it comes to Christian faith and understanding) is a self defeating path, and a dangerous path, because it can lead to the non-Biblical belief that either there is more than one God, or Jesus is not God, both of which are wrong/false conclusions, which are in opposition to God's Word, the Bible. Therefore they are in opposition to God Himself.

I also suspect that it is these false beliefs, that will allow many humans, including those who are Christians, those claiming to be Christians, those who are uncommitted to Christ, those who do not believe in Christ, and those who refuse to believe in Christ, to be deceived by the anti-Christ. After all he is called the Deceiver".

Since we know that the anti-Christ/Satan will deceive some of these people, it is most likely that some of these will be those who call themselves Christians, those who have a poor understanding or misunderstanding of Christianity, those who are not yet mature Christians, or those who do not have the Spiritual Gift of Faith to help them accept the truth of the mystery of the Holy Trinity, that will be deceived in the times to come.
Thus, an incomplete understanding of the Holy Trinity, a false belief that Jesus is not God, a false belief that Jesus is not one-in-being with Yahweh Sabaoth (he is not a second or third God) is not a path I would want to be on, and I would think, neither would anyone who wishes to be saved.

We are saved by faith alone. Those of you who do not yet have the Spiritual Gift of Faith, who wish to be saved, should ask Yahweh Sabaoth to give you the Gift of Faith, through the actions of the second manifestation of the One Godhead of the Holy Trinity, the Holy Spirit.

If we accept the theory/belief/supposition of monotheism, which is exactly what Abraham's understanding was, thus it was the understanding of the Hebrews/Jews, then we have to believe in a Triune God.

When he gave Moses the Ten Commandments He told Moses that there is only one God, and that no other god shall be put before him. The term Yahweh is first used by God of himself in Ex. 3:15, when Moses asks what he should tell the Israelites God's name is. God responds, "You are to tell all the Israelites, 'Yahweh, the God of your ancestors, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is my name for all time, and thus I am to be invoked for all generations.' " This is why, when I pray, I invoke the name of Yahweh Sabaoth.

Sabaoth is the Greek form of the Aramaic word tsebaoth, which means "armies." Yahweh Sabaoth means Lord God of Hosts, which in the mouth and mind of an ancient Hebrew meant "the leader and commander of the armies of the Hebrew nation." This shows that the Hebrews/Israelites/Jews believe the Messiah (to us Jesus), the leader of the armies of God at Armageddon, will be Yahweh Sabaoth, the Lord God of Hosts. Yahweh and Jesus are the same person.

So, one tenet of Judaism is there is only ONE God; Yahweh Sabaoth. But, as has been discussed at length elsewhere, and as has been shown by several excerpts from the divine inspired "Word" of God (the Bible), another Aramaic word for God is eloi or elohim which was understood by the Hebrews, and likely many other Middle East cultures as being pluralistic. So, because there is only ONE God, but He is plural, the only conclusion we can come to is that he has more than one part.

We know that the Hebrews understood this, by the use of the words "Spirit of God" in the very first verse of the Bible. Those words imply that there are not two Gods, but one, but that there is another part of Yahweh Sabaoth, which is the "essence" or felt or heard "presence" of Yahweh or his mind/thoughts, without Yahweh actually being seen. So, we already have two manifestations of Yahweh; one that we inherently know about/understand as a "being", that is able to "appear" as a non-corporeal spirit or a burning bush; and another manifestation that is heard or felt without being seen.

We know that the Hebrews knew there was also the physical manifestation of Yahweh in human form, by the use of the words "Angel of the Lord". This "Angel of the Lord" was the physical manifestation of a man "in the likeness of God" that appeared to many of the Old Testament Patriarchs and Prophets. If Adam saw Yahweh, this would have been the manifestation shown to him.

I do not know if this human form of Yahweh looked like Jesus, but since Yahweh had previously manifested himself in the incarnation of a human type body, it may well have been the same appearance as Jesus in his adult years. I think it is possible that Moses, Elijah, Enoch and others would recognize Jesus as the "Christ" as soon as they saw him. And they would know that he is in fact Yahweh Sabaoth (interpreted by the Hebrews as "God-the-leader-of-the-armies-of-Israel"), which is how the Jews expect Yawheh to appear some time in the future.

I cannot say that I understand how difficult it is for those of you who were not brought up in strong Christian-based families, or did not go to Christian schools, where children are raised with the concept of the ONE Godhead of the Holy Trinity, because I was in that type of environment, and it has been engrained in me as far back as I can remember. I have known nothing else, therefore there is nothing else, even if I have wondered, and asked questions, and searched the Bible and non-Biblical sources; the more I search, the more convinced I am of the fact of the Holy Trinity.

So, all logic tells me that Jesus is NOT a god who is NOT part of Yahweh. Jesus is NOT one God, and Yahweh is another God, and the Holy Spirit is a third God. IT CANNOT BE; for THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, His name is YAHWEH SABAOTH, and I will not put any god, or gods, before Him.

This is one of the central issues/beliefs (dogma) of Christianity, that probably cannot be accepted/understood on logic or proof. It in fact, may be necessary to be accepted, with the very definition of belief in God/Judaism/Christianity; which is FAITH. And, as I have noted elsewhere, faith is one of the Spiritual Gifts (charisms) that Yahweh will deny no man or woman, if they seek the truth of Yahweh, and simply ask for the Gift of Faith. For, if we really understand Christian faith, we know it is a gift, it helps us to accept and believe in Yahweh Sabaoth/the Holy Trinity, even though it is beyond human comprehension.

To comprehend Yahweh we must have the faith of a child. So, be a child, of Yahweh Sabaoth, and you can accept the truth of the Holy Trinity, without proof, without logic, without total understanding.

If we look at the New Testament, we will find that many early Jewish converts simply accepted the truth of Jesus, accepted that he was God, because they already had faith in Yahweh Sabaoth. And, when they accepted the truth of Jesus, many of them began speaking in tongues, as a sign to them, that something new, something different, had come into their lives. Their belief in Jesus had allowed the Holy Spirit, the "essence" of Yahweh to manifest himself in their lives, and in their minds and bodies.

Without this "baptism of the Holy Spirit" (the Paraclete) that Jesus promised he would leave behind with/for us when he (Jesus) left earth; without this manifestation of Yahweh in us, through our soul and spirit, it is difficult for us to know/understand/completely comprehend Yahweh's Word (the Bible), and to live the life reminiscent of Jesus the Christ, the life of a true Christian.

This is why being a "born again" Christian is so important, for it is only by being born again that we are saved, and are able to allow the Holy Spirit to manifest himself (the essence of God) within ourselves, and allow us to receive and use the "Gifts of the Holy Spirit" (charisms) meant for each of us. Read 1 Cor. 12-14:25, it is not just some reference to spiritual manifestations of the time of Christ, this is an explanation of what you can have and do, now, in your life. And, as the "end of days" grows nearer, and the falling away from Yahweh occurs, and apostasy increases, these gifts will become more manifest in Christians, and more important in our collective battle against evil and moral corruption.

We should all seek to receive the Spiritual Gifts God desires each of us to have, and we should use them. If you are not a "born again" Christian, and are not a Charismatic Christian (one who has and uses God's Spiritual Gifts) then take the next step in your Christian walk, and seek and ask to become "born again" and to receive your Spiritual Gift. 1 Cor. 14:7 says, "To EACH person the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good." God has a Spiritual Gift for you. Have you asked for and been given it? Are you using it? You should be, for it is given "for the common good." If you are, or want to be, part of "the body of Christ" then you should be using the gift God has for you.

Yahweh Sabaoth, I fervently pray that all who read this receive this most precious Gift of the Holy Spirit, the gift that must come before all other gifts, the Gift of Faith in you. I also ask that those who are not "born again" of water and the Holy Spirit, be born again; and I ask that they seek, ask for, receive and use, the Gifts of the Holy Spirit you have for them. I ask this in the name of the Lord God Jesus Christ. Amen.

I ask that you all pray that prayer with me.

I love you all, your servant in Christ, T.R.

What is a Christian?

The topics on "Is Jesus God?" and "Is the Bible the Inspired Word of God?" on my Internet talk forum led me to another question, that being "What is a Christian?" To understand what a Christian is, or should be, we must first understand what the Christian faith is. The Christian faith is based on the belief that there is only one true God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all being one in the Godhead of the Holy Trinity. The following is a quote from one Christian source.

"The mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is the mystery of God in himself. It is therefore the source of all the other mysteries of faith, the light that enlightens them. It is the most fundamental and essential teaching in the "hierarchy of the truths of faith." The whole history of salvation is identical with the history of the way and the means by which the one true God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, reveals himself to men "and reconciles and unites with himself in those who turn away from sin."

If you don't totally agree with the above quote, it is time to get out your Bible and do dome serious reading, and some serious research. One passage says it very clearly, John 1:1-14. (What are you waiting for, get out your Bible and read it.) If that doesn't make it clear to you read John 10:30. "The Father and I are one." That, I personally believe, puts the nail in the cross, so to speak. Jesus is one in being with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the Holy Trinity.

To put things into perspective the god Allah of the Muslim is not the God YHWH of the Christians, because they do not believe Jesus is the human manifestation of God, one in being with the Father, in the one Godhead of the Holy Trinity. The following is from the web site of The Institute of Islamic Information and Education:

Chapter 112 of the Qu'ran reads:

Islam rejects characterizing God in any human form or depicting Him as favoring certain individuals or nations on the basis of wealth, power or race. He created the human beings as equals. They may distinguish themselves and get His favor through virtue and piety only.

The concept that God rested in the seventh day of creation, that God wrestled with one of His soldiers, that God is an envious plotter against mankind, or that God is incarnate in any human being are considered blasphemy from the Islamic point of view.

"People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and say not as to God but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not, 'Three.' Refrain; better is it for you. God is only one God. Glory be to Him - (He is) above having a son." (4:171)

One of the reasons I mention this is because if you are a "Jesus is God, one in being with the Father" Christian, it is important to the salvation of your soul. In this time of Christian apathy, with the political-correctness of tolerance and acceptance of other non-Christian religions; and the "Jesus is not God, one in being with the Father" Christians; we Christians who believe Jesus is one in being with the Father need to be very careful not to accept the beliefs of those religions/denominations. We also need to be careful not to allow our ignorance, misinterpretation or misunderstanding of basic Christian dogma and belief, or political correctness, to corrupt the above stated truth of Christianity; that is, if you want to stay true to that definition of Christianity.

 All we have to do to realize the outcome of corrupted or co-mingled Christian and non-Christian religious beliefs is look at the book of Revelations. This book alludes to the "False Prophet" who many believe will instigate the founding of a new religion, incorporating the beliefs of many of the worlds religions, Christian and non-Christian alike. (Note: I prefaced this with an if.) If the belief of the "Jesus is God, one in being with the Father" Christians is correct, it means that the Anti-Christ and the False Prophet will deceive those who have no Christian religious faith, those who may not be strong in their Christian faith, and those who accept the beliefs of the "Jesus is not God" Christians and the non-Christians into believing that the Anti Christ is God. The "False Prophet" will then compel every human being to be branded on the right hand or forehead with the mark of the beast (Satan).

Unless people have this brand they will not be allowed to buy or sell anything. That is quite the punishment, for not following the teachings of this "False Prophet" and his god Satan. But, the punishment, by God, for allowing this brand to be placed on them is even worse; the sword of the Rider/Messiah in Revelations will kill them. Most Christians interpret this Rider as Jesus, and the sword as his voice or vocal command. However, there may be a way out of this dilemma.

This understanding of "God" even goes as far as the founding of the United States of America. When the founders of this great country said, "In God we trust" they meant the Holy Trinity, because they were Christians, many of them Puritans. There was no "Jesus is not one in being with the Father" church or movement around. And the dominant religion of the European immigrants was Christianity. But, now we have residents and immigrants who are not Christian. We have Buddhists, Moslems, Confucianists, Shintoists, Native American Shamanists, Druids, etc. We can no longer say that the God of our fathers is the one God that most Americans currently put their trust in.

The dogma, the central belief of Christianity, is the Nicene Creed. In the early 300's AD, the hierarchy (bishops/archbishops) of the Christian church were called together in Nicaea by Emperor Constantine. This meeting is referred to as the "Council of Nicaea." The purpose of this meeting was to lay down the central beliefs of the entire Christian church. One of the doctrines that came out of that meeting was the "Nicene Creed" or Christian "Statement of Faith." About this creed one source states:

"A creed is a summary of Christian Faith written by the church in order to confess clearly what it believes. The Nicene Creed was originally written in 325 AD (in Greek) when the Roman Emperor Constantine called together the Council of Nicaea (in Asia Minor) to address the fragmented character of the Christian church--a church fragmented primarily because of disputes over whether or not Jesus Christ was fully God. It was expanded to the current text at Constantinople in 381 AD. The contemporary translation of the Nicene Creed adopted by the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) was completed by an ecumenical body, the English Language Liturgical Consultation in 1987." Ecumenical means "universal," as in a large number of different churches/denominations.

The Christian Nicene Creed

We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.

For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.

We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

The words "of one Being with the Father," "one in Being with the Father," "being of one substance with the Father," "of the same essence as the Father" meaning Jesus is the same as God, are found in this very same creed in the Anglican, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Methodist, Calvinist, Christian Reformed, United Church of Christ, Free Reformed, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Armenian, and Orthodox Church of America. If you doubt me type in "Nicene Creed" in the Google Search engine on the Internet.

One source states:

"The Nicene Creed is the most widely accepted and used brief statement of the Christian Faith. In liturgical churches, it is said every Sunday as part of the Liturgy. It is Common Ground to East Orthodox, Roman Catholics, Anglicans, Lutherans, Calvinists, and many other Christian groups. Many groups that do not have a tradition of using it in their services nevertheless are committed to the doctrines it teaches."

So, What is a Christian? (these are possiblities)

1.If the definition of a Christian is "one who believes in God (YHWH)" then Jews and Muslims could be considered as Christians. But, they aren't."

2. If the definition of a Christian is "one who believes Jesus is God" then Jews and Muslims could not be considered Christians.

3. If the definition of a Christian is "one who believes Jesus was the Messiah sent by God" then Muslims could be considered Christians. But, they aren't.

4. If the definition of a Christian is "one who believes Jesus is God incarnate/Jesus is God" then Muslims and those who believe Jesus is only the human son of God could not be considered Christians.

5. If the definition of a Christian is "one who believes in the Holy Trinity, but not that Jesus is the same as the Father" then Muslims and those that do not believe Jesus is one in being with the Father" could not be considered Christians.

6. If the definition of a Christian is "one who believes Jesus is God, one in being with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the unity of the one Godhead of the Holy Trinity" then those who do not believe in the Unity of the Trinity could not be considered Christians.

As we can see, a person's personal definition of what a Christian believes often determines whether or not they consider themselves Christians, or whether or not they consider others as Christians. The question then arises, "Does each person have the right to define their own description of what a Christian is?" Unfortunately or fortunately, the vast majority of the Christian Church defines a Christian as #6.

This leads to other questions, "What is the Bible's definition of a Christian? What is our (as mere humans) definition of a Christian?" Does one or the other of those definitions mean you have to believe Jesus is God? Do you have to believe Jesus is God, one in being with the Father, in the Holy Spirit? Do you have to believe there is only one God, consisting of three manifestations?

Can you believe Jesus is not God? If so it flies in the face of what I have been taught that most Christians believe is Biblical truth. Can you believe the Father is one God, Jesus is another God, and the Holy Spirit is yet another God, and still be a Christian? If so, this flies in the face of monotheism (only one God), as was given to Moses on Mt. Sinai. And it goes against the Ten Commandments.

Does believing Jesus is only a man, but a man who came to die for our salvation, brings us salvation? Does believing there are three different Gods bring us salvation? These are questions we should all be looking for answers to, because it may make a difference.

Let's put it in the perspective of my children and myself. If they ascribed to either of the beliefs that Jesus is not God, or that Jesus is a different God than God the Father, I would worry about their salvation, because of what I was taught. In the same way I worry about those who read this. As I mentioned earlier, I believe it is the pollution, dilution and corruption of the original Christian dogma that is exactly what Satan will use to deceive us into following Satan instead of Jesus.

We have shown that we cannot use the word "Christian" to define all Christians as believing that "Jesus is God, one in being with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the one Godhead of the Holy Spirit;" because some people (who consider themselves Christians) don't believe Jesus is God, and some don't believe there is just one God. So, how do we define what it is to be a Christian? And is it right to redefine or expand the boundaries of the description of what it is to be a Christian. I personally believe, as a result of reading the Bible (in particular Revelations) that we need to be very careful of where we go, and how far we go, from what Christian dogma teaches us to be the truth of the Bible. I believe that at some point we, as Christians, will be called upon to draw a line in the sand, and say, "This is not right." The questions is, where is that line? There is no question that there has to be a line.

Recently (and it may have been foreshadowed in the Bible by calling Satan the "deceiver") I/we can no longer use the Nicene Creed description of a Christian to describe all of those who call themselves Christians. As has been pointed out, just saying you are a Christian does not make you a Christian. And if we have people who are not Christian who are purposely or not purposely misleading us, we may be in trouble. Mind you, I am just pondering the possibilities, because I think it is important to the salvation of those around us, those we talk to, those we teach, and those who come after us.

The Christian community considers that not believing Jesus is God, one in being with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the Holy Trinity is heresy. Heresy being defined as "a contradiction of a dogma," and dogma being defined as "regarded as unquestionable." (from Webster's Dictionary) I'm not stating this to hurt anyone, and I am not judging, I'm just stating the Christian church's position on this subject.

I don't want to hurt or offend anyone. I really don't want to risk friendships, or alienate anyone, with the results that someone may think badly of me, talk badly of me, or refuse to read anything I write, which could result in lost income. I've tried to avoid that in the name of political correctness. However, if I am a true believer in Christianity, then I have to stand up for the beliefs of the Christian church, and say that I believe as it believes. At some point Christians are forced to stand up and tell it like it is.

Would it be better if I didn't tell the truth as Christians see it? Would it be better if I lied, and said that, according to the Christian church, Jesus is not God, one in being with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the Godhead of the Holy Trinity; and that saying so is not heresy? If I did, many Christians would loose all respect for me. And I wouldn't be a very strong Christian.

If I am a Christian, and I firmly believe Christian dogma and teachings, and I really do care about others and their souls, I, as a Christian, have the responsibility to point out how their beliefs have gone against Christian dogma, beliefs and teachings. If I really care about others I must do it, even though it may cost me friendship, respect or income. I can only hope that at some point in their lives they realize that I only wanted the best for them, and that I practiced (for lack of a better term) tough love. Sometimes (in this case of Christianity) the dogma hurts.

To you who are "Jesus is God, one in being with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the Holy Trinity" Christians I say this, "Please be very careful what you believe. Before you accept anything outside of the Nicene Creed, check it out.

Is Satan Real?

In November of 2003 I also asked this question on my "Hunting Forum" T.R. 's Tips" at www.Hunting Net.com. "Do you think Satan/the Devil is real?" I had already posted several Christian related topics on the hunting forum, and I had received a lot of complaints about them, because according to several posters "Christian topics don't belong on a Hunting forum." In spite of that I was glad I posted this topic particular topic because it was "hit" 255 times in two days. One of the reasons I liked it was because it forced me to examine the reasons why I believe Satan and evil are real. I think you will find the following excerpts from the forum interesting.

One responder wrote:

I believe that the devil is very real for some folks. I believe that the idea of Satan, Lucifer, The Devil, etc., is strictly relevant to one's level of commitment to their faith. As that level rises and eventually becomes fundamentalist ideology, the idea of evil personified corrupts the very tenets of our faiths, which are compassion and tolerance. Compassion and tolerance for all faiths is paramount to the survival of any one culture.

Jews, Muslims and Christians all share the same God...yet we have numerous fundamentalist quacks which insist on sending their brother man to hell. Bin Laden, a fundamentalist Muslim believes that American Christians are infidels and crusaders. So you can easily see that the Dark Ages are alive and well in a good portion of the world. But when we get so enamored with the notion that the Devil actually exists, we lose all sight of the true meaning of God and stray towards an endless pursuit of emptiness. The belief in the Devil absolves us of all personal accountability and responsibility...that's why you can't use the defense up in front of a jury..."the devil made me do it". To dismiss criminal behavior and actions as simple possession of one's soul is inexcusable.

I don't believe in evil but rather greed. I believe that greed is a part of human nature. I believe that there are those who want for material things, for power, for simple pleasure ... and they exploit others to meet that end. We label that pursuit as being evil and the work of the devil, but again, it dismisses our conscious responsibility to our fellow man, which is compassion and tolerance. Compassion and tolerance are the only things we have to counter greed.

I'd also like to add that we are at a very trying time for all faiths. Due to rapid technological and scientific advancements over the past 100 years, it seems that our heads are at war with our hearts. As Darwinism collides with Theism, we struggle to make sense of the aftermath ... and what we don't understand; we associate with what we know. Many people feel they know the devil and thus the connection is made.

I responded with:

I think if you polled many Christians you WOULD find that the Born Agains, Charismatics, Pentecostals and Fundamentalists believe more strongly than others that Satan and evil are real. But, I have found that it is because they have a more complete understanding of the Bible, and a stronger faith in it as the inspired word of God.

I've found in others, and in myself, that a deeper understanding of the Bible, and a belief that evil and Satan are real, has not corrupted their or my faith, so that they or I put the blame for personal bad behavior on evil or the Devil, but rather on themselves or myself. In other words, they and I are more aware of what they/I do wrong, how they/I MAY be influenced by Satan, devils, evil spirits, evil etc., but that ultimately it is our/my decision to act badly or not, and the blame when they/I do lies squarely on them/me. It is the awareness of this that makes us more compassionate, tolerant and caring. And that is the mark of a true "getting there" Christian.

I can tell you that my personal understanding that Satan and evil are real has led me to a greater reliance on God (which is what He wants), a deeper understanding of God and Christianity, and made me a far better, more loving, more compassionate, understanding, tolerant person. And I am not empty. My life is full with loving and serving God/Jesus/the Holy Spirit, and my family, my friends, my fellow Christians and non-Christians. I hope you can look at what I am and do here and see what Christians TRY to be and do. If you find that I am a caring person, who helps others, then realize that I was not like this before I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior, and I would not be like this except for the grace of God.

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